I love the Bent 100 as well, but it's pretty flexible. I'd go 177. Hi Rafal! Published on 11/01/2022. Look forward to hearing your thoughts. It's not the most powerful or more precise ski on firm snow, but it's no slouch either. I would probably put a shift binding on these - I know the enforcers are heavy but I am currently also touring on a heavy setup - to be able to use them for small tours that are mainly focussed on the downhill. I demoed the 106 QST's last week in CO, and really enjoyed them. Beginner: Chances are youll know if this is you. It won't have the same tank-like feel of some of the heavier skis we're looking at in this article, but manufacturers are making strides in retaining stability and vibration damping while bringing down the overall weight. Skiers who value light weight over stability. The extended tip rocker goes well with the low tail profile, creating a good blend of grip in the carve as well as playful flotation. Advanced and Expert skiers who are looking for power, dampness, and stability. Curated Ski Experts Daryl Morrison and Hayden Wright tested the 2023 Atomic Bent Chetler 100 at Powder Mountain in Utah this spring. Thinking either Rustler 10, Fisher Ranger 102 FR or the Nordica Enforcer. This gives the Rustler 10 more of a soft-snow focus, although it can still hold an edge on firm snow too thanks to that metal and the resulting torsional stiffness underfoot. A bit more demand out of the Rustler, as it has a partial metal laminate, while the Ranger only has metal underfoot for binding retention. I think I'd like something with a little more edge grip, especially when we get icy conditions! 34% Off $725.00. No worries, our owner's name is David, so we'll just pretend that what you meant As well as fast skiing stability and all mountain coverage, Im also looking for manoeuvrability for bumps and tight terrain. Weight: Theres no easy way to say it, but skiers who are carrying around a bit of extra weight should consider staying to the higher side of the scale. If you're looking for a strong-carving ski in that 100mm range, I'd check out the Volkl Mantra 102 and the Nordica Enforcer 100. SE, Hi SE, An all mountain ski with some distinct freeride influence is a great way to describe it. Yup, those are the lengths I was thinking of. They just also have that low gear that you need for skiing with kids. It works quite well in this 100 mm shape, and when combined with the longer-radius C2 shaping, these skis are wider on-trail skis that also have quite a bit of all-mountain versatility. This is one of those skis that could double as a terrain park ski, but that doesn't mean you have to spend time in the park to enjoy it. It doesn't have huge amounts of rocker or early taper, so its shape isn't totally focused for soft snow, but it still performs really well even in deep conditions. Too short, and you'll find your forearm angled downward. I love the Soul Rider as an all-mountain ski. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If you're just on the groomers, that's not a big deal, but it sounds like you're having fun in the woods, and that's where maneuverability really matters. Hi SE, Im 5'10" and 230 lbs. While its got the dual-metal laminate, its more active and engaging than a lot of skis in this grouping. If you're worried about that, you could consider going with the 188 cm length. Thank you for the comment! Versatility, Well-Roundedness, Everything. And finally, how firm--I've currently got, so to speak, half a layer of titanal in my skis, so two layers seems a bit much, but I've never tried it. They seem to lack some oomph on the groomers, where if I'm being honest I'll spend more time. All of these skis are very versatile and have high-performance ceilings while remaining accessible. Im a mid-30s advanced (expert on piste) skier, 190lbs, 61 and ski 90% in the European Alps 10-15 days a year (with the occasional trip to the West Coast). QST is a better floater, but Enforcer rips harder on groomers. This little bump out in the tail gives the ski a surprising amount of energy at the end of the turn, making the Declivity remarkably agile in linked carving turns. SE, Your email address will not be published. I have narrowed my choices down to the k2 mindbended 99 ti or the Fischer ranger 102 both at 177. models that really started/re-started this ~100mm all-mountain ski evolution, and it retains a lot of qualities that make it relevant to this day. Now I'm confused, I'm looking for a ski like the Kore that will absorb the big blows in chopped up snow, vs throwing me. The all-new Atomic Maverick 100 Ti is a strong and powerful ski that takes over where the Vantage series of skis left off. Fitting cross country skis is different then fitting alpine skis. Hi Kovi! Hi Cody! Update: We compare the Bent Chetler 100 to the Line Sick Day 104, Nordica Enforcer 100, Black Crows Daemon, Rossignol Soul 7 HD, Faction Prodigy 3.0, Fischer Ranger 102 FR, Blizzard Rustler 10, and more. Any insight you can offer between these skis would be awesome! The Enforcer 100 starts to feel like a ski with more of an even mix of performance characteristics for different terrain than some of the skis we talked about above, but the important thing to remember with this ski is it still uses two sheets of metal. Who it's For: As the narrowest ski in this comparison article, you might expect the Pinnacle 95 Ti to be one of the more firm-snow-focused skis, but that's not necessarily the case. The Rustler 10 has metal underfoot that tapers towards the tip and tail of the ski, so it feels more stout underfoot, but since you don't ski terribly fast, you might not need that metal. It uses two sheets of metal sandwiched around a wood core, and also uses some carbon in its construction. Have fun! Definitely keep that Rustler 10 at the top of your list. Im skiing with an AT Set up (La Sportiva Spectre boots and radical 2.0 AT bindings) On circa 2005 k2 telemark skis. You want something thats both easy to turn and has a high-performance ceiling. I am 23 and new to Freeski! Wanting something easier to maneuver and have fun with. If youre looking for more flotation, the RP shaping versions of these skis are better choices, but for a more business-like personality, these Pagoda Piste 100 C2s have a whole lot to offer. For a stiffer ~100 mm fun-loving ski, I'd also check out the Nordica Unleased 98 and the Rossignol Blackops 98. In the 180, were looking at an 18-meter turn radius, so these skis do have the proclivity of being on edge. Sorry for the name confusion, I noticed right after I hit the submit button. Cove- If you're looking at two pairs, then I definitely think the 99 is a good option for your wider ski. Thanks! The Kore, in my opinion, feels more focused on off-piste maneuverability than anything else. Do you have a suggestion, including length for my size and weight? Check the charts below to see which size you need. Youre likely still pretty cautious in regards to your speed, but are able to stop on demand and have a bit more confidence that youll make it to the bottom in one piece. While the M5s were a dream at speed, I'm willing to sacrifice some stability for something a bit more maneuverable, and I would like the ski to be at least serviceable on powder days. My new ski should work great off piste, work ok on piste (ideally even if it is icy), turn easily so that the ski teaching will be easy. I'm willing to give up a little of that speed on the groomers for something that I can turn /float a little while in powder. While they've served me well, I feel I've outgrown them. Thanks in advance. Really good content on the YouTube channel as well! I would be forever grateful for any insights or recommendations you can provide regarding my selections for a pair of skis, and their respective lengths, that will best suit my goal of improving my skills all over the mountain. Rustler 10 or QST 99 both feel like good choices, however. Check the charts below to see which size you need. We felt the 99 fits better with the "All-Mountain" moniker a bit better than the 102, which leans more to the "Freeride" side of the spectrum. Preference: Finally, theres preference. Hope that helps! Will spend enough time on groomers to not completely forsake having fun there as well. It loves to make quick movements and really reacts well to skier input. I'm the rip van winkle of skiing. I want something that'll allow for my more freestyle mind as I get more comfortable on skis, 180s to 360s and some cliff hucks but still able to lay it down at high speeds. Atomic builds the energy into the ski through the positive camber underfoot, and the light weight wood core takes care of the rest. I plan a trip or two out west (Utah for sure) this year and possibly an excursion into New England. SE. A few skis come to mind that I think you'd enjoy testing if you have the opportunity. Wish I could give you more info on the Sick Day 104, but I will say considering my experience with all these skis, I don't think it would be quite as playful as the QST. Considering the Mantra M5 as a one-ski quiver, as from what I have read and heard performs well in all conditions. What do you think? An intermediate skier may struggle with its level of power. Also something that wants to and feels more natural in the air. I do love pure powder but I'm not as experienced in that yet, I think someday when I retire I'll buy a powder-dedicated ski for those times. I have demoed the Enforcer 100s our west and really liked them a lot! Unfortunately we don't really have access to Line skis right now, with the exception of big industry demos and other events like that. Wanted to get your input on ski choice. Elan Ripstick 96 2. On many windy East coast ski days, I'll ski both conditions in the same day and same run (firm & wind blown trails, but soft bumpy trees). 177 felt pretty solid, but didn't get to try it on much soft snow for floatation (granted, primary need won't be using it as a pow ski, got the dps for that) I've got a question where I'm not sure whether it's time for new skis this season. I'm having a hard time deciding. I've currently got a pair of Blizzard Magnums (I think low 80s underfoot) which I love for the groomers, however, I am finding myself sometimes spending the entire day off-piste in the trees. Enforcer 104 the heaviest of the group but decent tail rocker and nice flex that's money for bumps and trees. What do you think? It uses a wood core made from silver fir and beech, sandwiched between two full sheets of titanal metal, and finished with carbon and fiberglass. 6 watching. Definitely the best in powder out of the skis you're considering, and super fun in moguls and trees too. The main story here, though, is the rocker profile and the amount of splay in the tips and tails, making this ski stay up and out of fresh snow, while leading to a turnier overall mentality due to the shorter effective edge. Its telling of a company whose widest ski is 102 mm underfoot, that they value precision and quality in an all-mountain format. Tom, Hi Tom! Still pretty maneuverable in the tips and tails, but a fantastic overall ski. Its ability to transition through different snow conditions is perhaps its most impressive attribute. Looking for an all mountain powder capable ski(no park) and something that can handle the icy east coast. I have little to compare to other than a dedicated onpiste type ski like the Volkl RTM models. The longer turn shape of the Stance 102 is mostly to blame, as this straighter-cut ski loves to be used directly in the fall line. Want a ski that I control vs it controlling me if that makes sense. The build is mostly the same, you're really getting a wider, more rockered, and more tapered ski with the 104, which takes it from the all-mountain zone and places it squarely in the freeride region. All over when it comes to terrain - bowls, trees, bumps from time to time, and on groomers just depends on the day between tighter turns and super g turns. SE. Aggressive skiers who are looking for something just a bit more manageable than the burliest skis out there. The M-Pro is stiff in the tail, so make sure you take that into account as to whether you want that or not. Because it's lighter, it will get deflected more than heavier skis. 2020 Atomic Bent Chetler 100 Used Demo Skis w Bindings 164cm Sale: $599.99 39% Off $985.00. No, theyre not park-exclusive, and thats one of the great things about them. The Kore is stiff and light, and I suspect you'll find the same "bouncing" feeling that you get from the E88. I have a good level on groomers but I often get bored and want to go more into trees, powder, and learn new tricks in the park. July 13, 2018 by Luke Koppa. Going with a wider ski would actually slow your progression a little bit. The QST is a great mix of performance and is on the lighter side, but it's still a fantastic all-mountain ski for any and all conditions. I liked these skis because they are so maneuverable and forgiving. Im in the market for a one ski quiver. A ski gear sub for everything ski related. I ski a variety of terrain, and Im looking for something I can take into bumps or trees, but that can also hold their own if I happen to luck into a powder day while on a trip out west. I also like to ski in switch and do some 180s and 360s and some silly stuff like butters occasionally(not looking for an insane twin tip or super wide ski that will give me an hard time at the cabin lifts). thanks for the great overview and all the reviews! Using Salomons construction techniques involving their Metal Twin Frame, these skis benefit from two sheets of titanal, with windows open in the forebody and the tail. and am a pretty aggressive overall when I ski. If you like skiing very fast in wide-open spaces, regardless of snow conditions, then these are the skis for you. Hope that helps! So, I was wondering which pair you would recommend considering that and the fact that I am not a fan of carving and I usually ski in Canada where the snow is often hard and pretty icy? Basically, I can ski anything on the mountain but maybe not with the greatest of form or flow. I've been on an old 165cm 2007 Fischer RX6 that's delaminating pretty badly, and I'm looking for some new gear. I am 40 years old, 5ft 9inch and weigh 235lb. I'm pouring over the choices in this category and am looking for your pro support to narrow down my choice once and for all. Hope that helps! That said, it sounds like you might like that in a ski. Especially in soft snow and powder. It's construction is very similar to the Ranger 98 Ti, although the 102 FR is a little bit heavier. If you're looking for a lighter ski that has a lot of different benefits, this is a great one. Also the Volkl Deacon 84 (or RTM 84 from previous years) are great skis. Maybe you spend a little time in the terrain park, but don't want to be limited by a narrower ski. Ive just had the 2018 and 2020 Rossignol sky 7 HDs in a row (which I absolutely loved btw) but fancy something ever so slightly stiffer. Thank you! HI Arthur! Finding your Boot Sole Length (BSL) is easy. It also is a great ski for someone who values maneuverability and quickness over speed, as you mentioned. I like them but they seem a bit light and chatter in harder pack snow. With fiberglass on top and bottom of the wood core, these skis have a tremendous amount of energy and snap, providing even aggressive expert skiers the proper foundation to push the boundaries. But I still want something so that I can be aggressive / ski off-piste crud and powder when I want. I have loved these skis for their ability to bust through crud, carve up wind-buffed pow, and of course lay it down at high speed on groomers to get the legs warm. This boosts its soft snow performance and helps the ski float in soft snow, despite only having a 95 mm waist. Nope! Im 60 and 195, and I mostly ski under control and not super fast. The mix of poplar and beech, arranged in vertical stringers, carries the quality and precision of Kastle skis through, offering that high-end feel and energy with more of a minimalistic build. Should I just flip a coin or do you guys recommend one over the other for me. I think in terms of length, the 176 might be on the long side, so if there's a low to mid 170's ski, I'd take that. A couple weeks ago we took a look at 15 different all-mountain skis in the 90 mm waist width range. Heck, you could probably even ski blindfolded and with your hands tied behind your back. Thanks, Hi Brian! Is there much difference between these two sizes? As a reminder, here at SkiEssentials.com we don't believe one ski is better than another. Think of any swervy type of skiing that can possibly fit in your mind and these Blends are the ideal toy for the task at foot. Keeping in tradition with the twin tip and more freeride-orientation, the Holyshred also employs a relatively long turn radius, coming in at 19 meters in the 182 cm length. I'm guessing you'll ultimately choose another ski, but I also think you'd enjoy finding out what the new Mantra is all about. Adam, Hi, The mantras are heavy as *** but I am really only hiking to a bit of sidecountry, not any real touring. I'd go with the Enforcer 100 in the 184 or the Ranger 102 in the 184. The Salomon QST 92 comes to mind right away. You give up a little bit of precision on firm snow, but you gain some maneuverability in soft snow and in un-groomed terrain. I'm looking for something that supports conditions as one finds them on the doable on a random ski week (I fly in, so I don't get to take advantage of powder days except by coincidence with my travel days) out west, with the limitation of a one-ski quiver. Aggressive skiers who spend most of their time on-trail. Who it's For: Like the Ranger 102 FR, it's best on the feet of a relatively playful skier, or at least a skier that values soft snow performance. I am so glad one of my colleagues told me about your reviews on YouTube, because they have inspired me to finally replace my 2012 Volkl Mantras. I am 58 and ride the enforcer 100 in a 177 length, primarily on the ice coast. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Have fun! If you like the general shape of the Enforcer, I'd put a strong vote for the Bent Chetler. A stiffer overall flex pattern compared to the Ranger 98 Ti above, which is going to make the ski very responsive to skier input. Also is 180 a good length for what I'm trying to do? Rossi experience 94ti I'd say the Experience and Rustler are a bit more user-friendly while the Mantra has a leg up in terms of carving and edge grip. Those were both near the top of my list, along with possibly the Kore. I have been spending hours reading through all of them while on Christmas vacation. SE, Hi Dave, It's going to hold an edge really well on firm snow, and it will respond to skier input really quickly. Im a 47 year old male, 5,11 and 170 pounds. What Skis Should I Buy: Comparing Men's 100mm All Mountain Skis - 2019 Edition. (occasional Alps) and looking for a replacement to my Atomic automatics 102s at 188 . Sounds to me like you're leaning to QST! Well, maybe not, but you get my point. Mostly ski glades and bumps and live in New England skiing Stowe, Jay, Cannon and the Loaf. 1 Ok_Promotion_7074 1 min. The Kore is a good mix of the three, with the Sky being the quickest and floatiest, and the Salomon being the dampest and most stable. Last year, a ski instructor whom I trust suggested that a somewhat stiffer ski might help, especially since 200 pounds of moguls all day might be a bit more than what the Atomics are built for. Can't wait to hit the slopes, thanks for your help. SE. Check it out! I'm definitely more of an aggressive skier (want a confidence inspiring ski when testing the speed limit), but also want something versatile and playful to hop and jump around on, as I'm always looking for natural features to hit. SE. Playfulness abounds in the QST 98, and it does have a lot of soft-snow benefits to it, as one of the better floaters of the group, allowing skiers to maximize the potential and capabilities of the ski no matter what the conditions or terrain. The tip is softer than the midbody and tail, mostly due to the Hollowtech in the tips, and while this assists with the initiation phase and the transitions, the forgiveness of the ski ends there. SE. They float and carve very well and have a ton of versatility. I'd stick to something with metal in it, so the Bent Chetler might not be the best option. Im currently on the Brahma- I believe its the 2015 and I do like it but thinking of getting a new setup- maybe slightly wider. They use their classic multi-layer wood core, a full sheet of titanal along the base of the ski, but the metal along the top of the ski is focused only along the edges of the ski and does not meet underfoot. In the 177 cm length, these skis generate a 17-meter turn radius, so it is on the relatively shorter side on this list, and we think thats a good thing given the strength and power. Mostly skiing Fernie, Lake Louise, and smaller hills in the area. That would really help in tight moguls and trees, and it still has solid torsional stiffness and good vibration damping so will hold an edge really well on firm snow too. To determine your size, simply flip a ski pole over, grab it under the basket, and place the handle on the ground. There's a lot out there for sure, but they're all really good, so it's harder to make a wrong choice. That said, I also spend a good amount of time cruising down groomers with my family members, so I need a ski that can do it all. The maneuverability of the Tracer 98 in the 180 cm length would be off the charts for you, and shouldn't feel too unstable. Expert: Hands down, youre the best skier on the mountain. Obviously I'm still torn so your advice is super appreciated. After being a Snowboarder the last 20 years this year I will "have to" get back to skis to teach my kids skiing. Required fields are marked *. Conversely, skiers who are exceptionally light should stick towards to smaller side of the scale, for similar reasons. The primary purpose for these skis will be to perform in powder. I've got a friend who wants the exact same ski, so I can sell it to him. Atomic Bent 110. Have fun! The MX 99 also has a full camber shape and doesn't use any early taper. With a fair amount of camber underfoot, the Maverick 100 is energetic and snappy, and thanks to the new Omatic Core construction, the skis are light in the swingweight as well. The 99Ti fits better alongside skis like the Enforcer 100, Mindbender 99, and Bonafide 97 versus the 102's similarities with some the wider skis of its group. (78mm waist) About 5 years ago I demo'd Volkl Mantras on an epic day in Colorado and loved them. It used to be that if you extended your arm upwards, you should be able to reach the tips of your skis. I need to detune the tips and tail a bit on the BC. Let me know if there are some good options you might recommend. This makes the ski pretty responsive out of the tail, but when combined with the more flexible nature of the ski, its still pretty darn playful. HI Matty! I mean theyre both pretty light and soft(ish) skis. Preference: Finally, theres preference. One of them is the Nordica Enforcer 88, which is stiffer and more responsive than the 93, and is a fantastic all-mountain performer. The commentary in your review rates it pretty highly as an all-mountain ski, but it doesn't make this list so I'm curious if that might fit the bill. If you like the traditional feel of a race ski but are in the mood for some freeriding, these skis should be at the top of your list. First of all, love your reviews! But perhaps Ive got enough weight and height to get enough reaction out of the 184 Mantras if I need shorter turns? Hi Dave! Then skis got wider. Sizing wise, the 172's in the BC's seem right, but in the Enforcer, I think I would go to the 177. Thanks For your light option, go with the Rustler, but if you're looking to go a bit heavier (again, not much), I'm a Pinnacle 105 fan. For length, I would think the 174 cm would perform well for you. Intermediate: Congratulations! It uses some of the longest rocker in this comparison article, especially in the tip. This clean carver loves to be on edge. Have fun! Please note: We are unable to mount Look Pivot bindings because the actual boot is required due to the extremely small amount of adjustment in the heel. Maneuverable in soft snow, holds an edge on firm snow, it's a very versatile ski. Any suggestions? If you're going to demo on pow days, then I'd recommend getting something on the 95ish side. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. After doing some research and reading through your advice to others, it seems like the the Kore 105, Salomon QST 106, K2 Pinnacle 105, and Blizzard Rustler 10 might be what I'm looking for, but I can't decide if I want a heavier or lighter ski. I found a great deal on a pair, just used once for 20% off. One of the more forgiving skis of this article, although like the Pinnacle 95 Ti, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be enjoyed by an expert. Youve made it to the next level in skiing. I read your bio without reading your ski choices and had QST 99 in my head. I'm 40, 6'2'' and 180lbs, spent all my life on groomers. Rather than snowplow your way down blue squares, youre able to use the shape of your skis to make parabolic or carving turns. The flex pattern is also one of the softest in this category, which really boosts the ski's forgiveness in variable snow conditions and tricky terrain. I also love aggressive short turns and carving at high speed. -Tom, Thanks Tom! Would the extra flotation of the rustler 10 or QST 99 not be worth the loss of edge hold/carving ability since Im primarily skiing frontside terrain? Yes, you will certainly miss the playfulness of the Rossi versus the E100, but I think it's worth it. This is for high-performance skiers who know how, and like to, drive a ski and tell it what to do. Have fun! We have the same boot length and I have gotten on them a couple of times and havent enjoyed them quite as much. SE. Hi SE, New 2023 Atomic. I tried out the blizzard bonafides last year and loved them in comparison to my chronics. Please keep in mind that ski boots DO NOT come in half-sizes. I'm looking for a 1-ski quiver. HI Brody! Weight: 170 lbs Hi folks! With minimal rocker and taper to the ski, it does hook up easily, but if youre looking to glean the best response from it, you are going to need to put in your own effort as well. Awesome! Long answer: You feel like a really good candidate for a Blizzard Rustler 9 or a Nordica Enforcer 93. John, Hi John! When solo I do like to blast through the chop and challenge my limits. Hi Nick! Hi SE, At your size, I'd recommend the E100 in the 185--don't overthink it! I'm not a speed demon, more like ability to turn freely and easily. The Bent Chetler 100 is significantly softer-flexing, and the Enforcer 100 is heavier. Tried some Kore 99's the next day, much better ski for me in the chop but not as agile in tight spots as I might like. Check out the Blizzard Rustler 10. If we were to pick two words to describe the Kore 99 from Head they would be stiff and lightweight. Montana in December, Colorado in February, and a few trips to Mammoth and Tahoe throughout the year. Be prepared for burly and strong performance overall. So you can measure yourself, or you can just check out our handy-dandy chart below. On your ski boot, there will be a 3 digit number on the outside or inside heel of one or both of your boots. If youve looked all over and still cant find your BSL, its also acceptable to measure along the bottom of the boot from the very tip of the toe, to back of the heel- just make sure you measure in Millimeters! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising.
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