Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. The main suspect according to police is a man whose name rhymes with Fat Clown. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. They had both been murdered. Im sure that was a LOL feeling for him. LE doesnt have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. Been following your blog from the start, and this is so close to what I have been feeling for a while now. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. Thanks. Long, 22 pages. (inaudible), Police: You, you admitted you talked to her . Oh, one more thing, Jim. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. The fact that the mere mention of FSG as anything more than a helpful old man out for a daily stroll is met with such hostility well, that raises all sorts of red flags with me even if the vitriol is coming from true crime enthusiasts on Reddit. to find the killer or team of killers. Much more on that below. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. Stupid, stupid, stupid. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Court documents newly obtained by WDRB link a man in jail with social media accounts police are investigating in connection with the murders of two young girls in. It was all over by 3:30. Then again, what if it wasnt? Clown. Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. The LE source didnt work on the case. I find your blog very interesting. Kelsi German has been cleared. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! It doesnt seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum. Im not familiar with Indiana; Ive never been there. Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. Im the one who did it. I have an official case document here in my hand. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files. Its not clear how? There was posing. These are simply unverified rumors. Hopefully justice will be served. Thats a full 18 hours. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. Several LE officials have said that Abby had a phone, whether with her or not is not known. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. Just thought I would steel you for that thought. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Can you email me with her name, please? Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Double jeopardy? I would think a crime like this would occur and the perpetrator would be gone. This proves more of Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girls phones after the crime. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two best. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? Is he into numerology? To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Im not stupid. He will crack soon. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Via LE Source A, we have learned that in both crimes: The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true: Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as: This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. Its a dead end. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Video of the incident was released by police. The bodies of Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge . They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for. So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. The only crime on Mr. Xs record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. Novella Nedeff, a clinical associate professor at Indiana University's McKinney School of Law, said sealing court records after a defendant is in custody is unprecedented to her, and speculated. I would like to email this , as it is not particularly relevant to the comments on this page. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven. Isnt that logical. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. This girl was refusing to get an abortion that he wanted her to get. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. Kegan Kline cannot be involved either. Also, you develop better sources. As you can see, the numbers are the same. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? We have no idea why the order was issued. One of them was Paul Etter. Besides being psycho. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. At least two prior marriages. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. He does not work there at the moment. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. One person wins and everyone else loses. He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. How do they know he sent audio/video to one of the girls phones? However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. Latest: Hope32. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. Im confused. Long, 22 pages. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . They are within the video. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. It finally started to sink in to these geniuses when the case was made look one of the eye witnesses who contributed to the 1st BG sketch is a lady who lives right behind Ron Logan, dont you think if the Killer was Ron that she would say, simply yeah the guy I saw that day lives right behind me? Not that anyone who has half a brain needs to be convinced Ron Logan is not the killer lol. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. A vote on funding the Crisis Response Center, contracted with Oaklawn, is expected on March 14. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. No one else reacted that way. Police: Right and you know you talker (sic) to her and you admitted to talking to her? Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. Sources Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. Is that also speculation? We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). Hes bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. Hes also thoroughly lawyered up, and hes not saying a word. You think Im stupid? Delphi murders: Family of James Chadwell says he is 'absolutely capable' of killing 2 teens He reappeared on radar last month when charged with kidnapping, attempted murder of 9-year-old. A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene. Delphi residents and those closely following the case were stunned when, on April 22, 2019, the Indiana State Police announced the case was moving in a "new direction." Law enforcement released a very brief video clip of the main suspect walking along the bridge, and a revamped version of the audio clip released in 2017 that said, "Guys . However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. Also how about this? Investigators are searching for the killer using their biggest clue: a recording of his voice from one of the victims' phones ordering the girls Down the Hill. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. 2 people did the actual murders and a woman behind the initial plan. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. We are very worried that the police may be trying to pin this crime on Kegan and Tony Kline and we know neither one is involved. Now, for the first time, we're hearing from the man whose pictures were stolen and used by that "anthony_shots . There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. However, the other three have only peripheral involvement and may have committed no crime! But no, that was not the case. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. LE themselves have admitted that they have one smudged fingerprint. Hi folks! The Murder Sheet podcast published the affidavit filed by a FBI agent asking for a warrant to search. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. Copyright 2022 WNDU. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Theyre generally unusable. Of course they would look for that. He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. I read your recent blogs about the Delphi murders, and you have a ton of info. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Im not sure about that, but its an interesting idea! The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. These idiot cops. How often to killers, of children or otherwise, take fucking photos and videos of their goddamned crimes? Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly. Dorian Belecamus, a beautiful and bewitching archaeology professor, sees an opportunity to do more than dig into the past: this is her chance to seize control of her country's futureby becoming the Oracle of Delphi . Thats very embarrassing. We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. Neither one can possibly be BG. Hes innocent. There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. These two men, driving in the younger mans black truck with pink stripe, were witnessed in the vicinity on or near the cemetery road at approximately 5:30 AM February 14, 2017. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. We believe this because this is what we were told. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is both sketches at once, obviously. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? Im not sure if pregnancy can be confirmed via autopsy before 6 weeks. So, there is still marks that are left on that unspent ammunition that can be inspected by an expert and you can say this cartridge was once inside that weapon.. I read most of those posts over there and of course I read any post about me. You want me to put it up? Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. 9) He has killed before. I dont know why that stood out to me. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Thanks, Mike! Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. Until then, the enemies will keep attacking. If I were LE, I would take a long, hard look at Rick Brown in Delphi, Indiana. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. The. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. I dont get it. "Abby" Williams, 13, and Liberty Rose Lynn "Libby" German, 14, according to Indiana State Police . This is a community where we can speak openly about the murders of Libby and Abby while searching for justice. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. That would have been quite a problem. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. There are 244 comments there. Four people are involved at least peripherally, BG and three others. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. The family knew something was wrong. While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. FSG knew everyone in town. You can tell by many things gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. Yes, I know. This may extend to age 15. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Link to cold case Linda Weldy http://whatsnewlaporte.com/2014/02/24/cold-case-killing-of-linda-weldy-10-still-waiting-to-be-solved-can-you-help/, A thread has already been posted about Police Scanners. Ages approximate. Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. Or wet sneaker. Sister of Delphi Murder Victim Is Studying Criminal Justice to Help Homicide Victims' Families The 2017 killings of Libby German and Abby Williams are the subject of tonight's episode of People . What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. Its not free though. The 2017 murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, shook the country. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. And-, Kline: I dont think I ever did, though. The guy that is making those videos about Mr X, and the guy by the name of Derek godsey. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? He has connections with current LE officers. Lawyered up, not talking. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. I believe Mr. X is the guy. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. Delphi murders update: Richard Allen, Delphi murder suspect, asks for public defender Law enforcement officials have so far declined to answer those questions, repeating they need to. Dont pay any attention to that.. Where did he get the food and what was the food? Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. Nobody has been arrested in the case but details have slowly been revealed about. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. it would have been nice to track the boot prints around the cemetery to the crime scene to the river but I would assume all that evidence is gone. All rights reserved. The incident was nicknamed the Snapchat Murders after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. Please help me out here. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. 242? Published February 2, 2023 12:52pm EST Indiana prosecutors say Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen should not be released on bail Richard Allen, 50, is accused of killing 14-year-old Liberty. I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. Sectionals kicked off on Tuesday night for Indiana high school boys basketball teams! I doubt it. How do I do this? Who are you friends with. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. Thats because he was competition. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Becky Patty: Obviously theyre not accusing her of the homicides! Wheres the rest of it? However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. Guilty until proven innocent! Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. 1 minute ago. 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