HE can build the world and populate it far quicker than SHE can. That just tells men you will move onto the next best thing when it comes to you. The woman you marry gets excited about marriage and starting a family with you. are is the number that would still be acceptable to most. what an stuck In addition, these so called beta men you speak of are men who actually are much more prone to have a family, take an active part in their childrens lives, and love their wives. LoL! There is a reason the vast majority of men do not want to marry a slut. As sad as it seems, the fact is CERTAIN Men sleep with tons of Women, and many Women sleep if lots of Men. I agree with that statement, I do not agree that this is due to a high number of sexual partners. You sir, are that stupid guy in this instance. I am giving my perspective on why they should not judge the woman solely on her past. No problem. But I hope u find the great guy tho. Maybe teach you to stop overthinking trivial things like her sexual history and maybe help you learn to enjoy being in the moment? 2,105 posts. And, yes, you should know. Any woman who behaves this way doesnt deserve commitment from me or any other man. The only men who have sexual power would be BILLIONARES and FAMOUS men.thats IT. Like half my high school classmates were married by 22 and there were peobably more men and women in my classes in college talking about their girlfriends they adore or fiances or their wives than any amount of dudes talking about casual hookups. Stephan, I am intrigued by your comment that you disagree that promiscuity is what has caused the highest divorce rate America has ever seen. There is a current trend not only in the U.S., but also in the UK called the marriage strike.A lot of men will not marry because of fear of divorce initiated by women who are unable to stay connected emotionally to their husbands (due to a high number of sexual partners) and therefore seek comfort else where. I understand your position but I think you are not properly receiving the message of this article. The only problem with yr case is you did what you did. It carries some truth to it undoubtedly. We all have issues, so we have no right to be so quick to judge, and look down on others for their perceived issue. -Becos men come in sizes and shapes, we view sex differently from women Which lets face it, is what she is looking for and why shell never be truly happen in life. I see it all the time. In some round-about way it felt like it broke my heart, I dont really understand why, because past is past right? So Stephan following your argument, if you would find a woman who 5-10 years ago had a gangbang and half of the town where you live had sex with her but now she is a very nice woman and has changed her values, you will embrace her and take her as your partner without having any problem or concern? Thank goodness the world is full of people with different view points, and a moderate amount of people who are willing to scratch below the surface. You know the real story and you still love her. The average women doesnt care. In fact, white middle-class college-educated women in their twenties are widely recognized by researchers to have more sex partners than any other group of women; the 1995 National Survey of Family Growth reports that women in these three categories (of race, income and education) have the highest proportions of four or more partners over their lifetimes (39).https://karmak.org/archive/2002/10/portrait.html. It means women can never have freedoms to make decisions at all. Even the girl who says she has casual sex without emotions points out the sex she had was with people she was already emotionally connected to, her friends. I still disagree with your overall position on the matter. Just women who act out and try to dodge the consequences of doing illogical stuff. You never know. Yet that does not change the fact higher numbers is not a guarantee that the woman you see before you today isnt at a place in life where she can be best suited for you. Oh you left them because of that? Men getting around has pretty much been accepted as it is. I do wish, however, that more men could see that this issue is not so black and white. I still deal with the pain but I am far from the promiscuous young girl. Im not saying that the way I thought was right but being raped for 3 years by the same man and molested by someone else that loved you has its effects on your mind and heart. I understand where you are coming from but we do not agree on this topic. Because the why rather than the number of men is what really should be discussed in order to better understand who this woman has been and has become. I would still probably see a similar reaction to my post on both of those subreddits so I have no interest in reading more on that perspective which is why I'm here hoping for more varied discussion. Thats gross!!! Im not going to be in a relationship with someone I dont respect, and Im sure as hell not going to marry and make the mother of my children some floozy whos been with 50 people, been gang-banged, and allowed herself to be used like a piece of meat. The choices you make in life matter and have consequences. Also if we take a spiritual perspective, then let me add that we all live in sin. Can you label them accurately? Would you rather have a car with ONE OWNER, who took care of it. Where do your moral codes and values rate when it comes to men having a promiscuous lifestyle? Including that her family knows of this. . Could you find out from women's perspective why they sleep with others outside of serious relationships? I just hope she appreciates you and loves you in return. If a woman chooses to be a slut, there is a price to pay for that behavior with many men who will forever disqualify her from consideration as a serious partner to settle down with. Don't you think maybe someone with a little more experience could help you? And she is the perfect wife! Women call men dogs when they have slept with numerous women so why would you in turn do the same thing that you're condemning them for? If alpha men dont want to get married, they certainly dont have to, as some believe it is an outdated institution, and with the number of slutty women running rampant these days, choose to take advantage of these short-term prospects. This statement makes no sense. Well sir, my past should not matter. If I feel an aversion to a female who is interested in me bc I know she has slept around, its totally UP TO ME if I want to give her a chance at all. In this life, moral responsibility will offer you far, far more than even being able to regain what you may have lost, even following reconciliation. This is because men are at low risk they can walk away, and if the woman becomes pregnant she is the one who bears 9 months of pregnancy plus childbirth and the resulting minimum 5 years of childrearing. In short 90% women fell under this category. This is why we all- male and female or female and male are in desperate need of Jesus and His awesome Grace, Mercy, and Forgiveness. understand that men careand crafty ones will attempt to figure out He was 19 at the time. -Choices have consequences Hope you can shed your toxic/red pill/PUA thoughts and beliefs. I Think that u r bringing this up is great and it needs to be talked about more.i Think when u Get older u Think more about this things and talk about it and see that people can change and of course u go thrue life experiance different things.we r not all the same and what people do different things and shouldnt be jugded by their past. This is still me But I had a young lady who was interested in me. I think Id have to agree with Sharona. And some dudes value the experience of a woman who has been around. Is it the number of acts, the number of partners, or the types of acts? Of course you agree. Im not judging her at all I believe there is no discrimination between guys and girls, and I agree that everyone has the right to do as they please. Sex isnt just for men. The best way to evaluate who a person really is, is toyou knowactually look at how he/she has lived his/her life. Mentally.not so much. Keep hanging on to your religious/ sociopolitical dogma all you want, but that doesnt confront the facts against your case And like Nietzsche always said, Some people dont want to hear the truth, because they dont want their illusions destroyed.. At times, those emotions cause us to make poor decisions. and you excel in other areas it can balance this out. Ill always get laid. Well written article. She has the same thing her husband has to give to her. I told her that unless she knew those particular girls background, she really had no basis to formulate a judgment. Shadow Hunter-Is a depressed life worth living. Stephan when you say up your game If you are average and a past lover of hers was well endowed there is nothing positions, creativity, or use of toys can compensate for. Here is my conclusion i guess. Id much rather be with a woman who has been with 10 people, 7 in the course of relationships vs. the girl who has only been with 8 people, but 5 of those were in a single night when she was gangbanged. We will not live forever and we are of the flesh. Official UCL 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Thread, TSR Community Awards 2022: Favourite Oldie - VOTING OPEN, Official King's College London 2023 Applicants Thread, Hertfordshire University Adult Nursing Interview Questions and Maths and English Test. If people would stop having children out of wed-lock this would alleviate some of these incidents. Women want a guy who wants a woman to love and respect herself to value a My number is 25. I think you misunderstand the article, this is not an article to promote a womans right to be promiscuous. Most people have not and this applies to both men and women. Main and women are different for reason and once we start opening up the doors for women to act similar to mens unhealthy actions, Youll start seeing to even higher divorce rate in the future. FACEBOOK is a trademark of FaceBook INC. Stephan Speaks | All Rights Reserved 2020. Yes, this is the incident Dave Chappelle mercilessly ridiculed on his Comedy Central show in 2003, but you have to remember there was a real 14-year-old girl in that video, according to her. I believe, Women should be honest, but we as individuals need to be more open minded and understanding. So sure, women can be sluts and then claim they have grown, and changed, and moved past that time of their lives. So there is something much deeper going on. Its a reality of biology. And as a quick aside, we both know that if a man and a women who are equally attractive enter a bar and make a bet as to who can get laid first, the woman will always win. Its not just your vagina you need to worry about think about your health. Most of you would reply yes. Just look at them in the same light. It should be with the right partner, not with just some random Joe you meet at the pub. She is still fully capable of satisfying a man and fulfilling his needs.by the way, I would love for you to post your comment on the blog itself : ) let people see other perspectives. So now u, a faithful man, deal with this truth and your surroundings are people fixated on sex. Right..so why would I want her after all that wear and tear.LOL Id rather all that Wear and Tear come from me. Its not like they grew up thinking they will screw as many guys as they can, get married, and live happily ever after. Excellent. I mean how hard can it be? If a woman had many relationships and then relationships failed, this is other thing and issue yes.. Not much wife material out there. and dont forget life is a stinky bitch, you call your friend in your house and he happened to be one of your wifes exes. I understand how her situation was as best I can and I should be totally forgiving. WOMEN THAT ARE CONSTANTLY ON THE HOE STROLL MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN LIKE ME WHO ARE NOTWOMEN WHO CARRY THEMSELVES WITH DECENCY AND RESPECT. And there is no one besides Him. Embrace who she is today and enjoy it. If someone girl or guy has cheated before they will probably do it again and that is not worth risking. The girl you date is not concerned about cooking for you. So clearly Im not assuming old-fashioned = not a slut. Gods commandment is.. Thou shalt not fornicate. Thats roughly a new guy each month. What if I were to continue with her and have kids? I am hopefull Using the number of sexual partners as one proxy for how someone views sexuality, intimacy, and as insight into part of their value-system iscompletelyrational and reasonable. I totally agree with what youre saying and how history is a big part of the males ideals when it pertains to women and what they should and shouldnt do in reference to sex, vocation, etc. TSR Community Awards 2022: Best Official Rep - VOTING OPEN, TSR Community Awards 2022: Most Funniest Member - VOTING NOW OPEN, JK Rowling dismisses backlash over trans comments: 'I don't care about my legacy', Official University of Leeds 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Threads. where does it say about the divorce rate comparison, never seen that, but i do know it said that women who are more educated behave more lower class, In addition, women residing in the bible belt who marry earlier have the highest divorce rates, about 5% higher than the divorce rate of atheists (who are sexually more permissive, on average): https://atheism.about.com/od/atheistfamiliesmarriage/a/AtheistsDivorce.htm. Its not your fault. People just want different things sometimes. We got married 6 month ago and we are super happy. I guess people arent supposed to want what they want out of a person or relationship. (Lets assume TONS is much larger than LOTS). Thank you very much. So its not a double standard at all. As one commenter posted, were all adults so I say do as you please. This is HILARIOUS from the perspective where people are making Judgment and the act of judging out to be a bad thing!!! Generally speaking, women can have sex with whoever they choose, the same cannot be said for men. Actually this research was proven by a Womens Organization! Being old-fashioned is not an excuse. It wasnt until recently I started putting together clues that she had been with more. Ok. You can choose to believe what you want, naturally. Well, let me tell you what i mean She used to introduce me to her exs here and there and i had no problems with thathowever, she met one of my exs once and I was in the dog house for a week, verbal abuse beyond verbal abuseIt was ok for her to flirt because she wasnt going to have sex with them, but if i even looked at a girl or talked to a girl or commented about a girl in a movie a week of hell would start!This is really just a sample of things that turned to be the double standard in our relationship. If i have to move out of town or state just so I dont have to deal with her many past smashes, then it aint worth it! Its not good north bad. You dont think there are alpha women out there? 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