Over six seasons of Downton Abbey , she has faced an unusually high number of heartbreaks and obstacles for a woman of aristocratic means, despite her . As days go by, the bell that connects Alice's room to Mrs. Brymptom's rings at night inexplicably, and Alice hears footsteps coming from the locked door across the hall from her - the former room of Emma Saxon. The main question I have coming out of this episode: Whats left to resolve? It's mentioned in series 4 (IIRC) - Lady Mary ask Anna to look after Rose while they are in London because they can't take Madge away from Lady Edith who is staying at Downton Abbey. Beautiful, stylish, haughty, powerful Mary should really be secure enough in her own identity that she doesnt need to diminish poor struggling Edith in order to confirm her superiority, yet she does and has continually done so during the five seasons of Downton Abbey. The Crawleys spend much of Downton Abbey fretting about the future management of their estatepartially because Lord Grantham is kind of bad at it. Septimus Spratt is her butler. Then, she found a sympathetic editor who soon became her lover. Its in series 3, I wont ruin it for you. Brush up on the best of them before the Downton Abbey movie hits theatersjust in case the whole miscarriage curse comes up. save. This story has been shared 18,354 times. Fellowes seems to have positioned her decision not as a bold move for feminism, but an opportunity to show once more that a womans greatest success is tied up in giving birth to a child and loving it. Its a perfectly fair, wonderful, and believable ending for Edith, which is why Im convinced it wont ever happen. Mary would have held the title of Countess of Grantham had her first husband, Matthew, lived to succeed her father. Some fans have interpreted this empathy as a clue that Rosamund, not Lady Grantham, is Ediths true mother. In a bit of a confusing adjunct to this, when the wife has no title of her own, the wife of a younger son is addressed as Lady (first name of husband). The two living daughters have to be addressed normally as Lady Mary and Lady Edith and by servants as MiLady and not as you said: Your Ladyship, because that is only for the countess and dowager countess. As she has married untitled Mr Henry Talbot she is Lady Mary Talbot. So the divorced Margaret had to settle for being styled Margaret, Duchess of Argyll. In the Season 1 finale, tragedy strikes. The fear you hear in Aileens story is similar to Ediths fear that Mary will learn the truth about her illegitimate child, Marigold, and shame her mercilessly. Any other sons would be styled as The Honourable before their first name. Its maddeningly unclear what this operation entails, but one wild guess is that she had an early version of IVF. This was wonderful and very enjoyable. As Carmichael told the Radio Times (via The Telegraph) when speaking about Dockery, she said, "We definitely have a different way. Back to the Crawleys, but remember they arent real. My mom emailed me last week to complain that we didnt catch a glimpse of Marys. Robert open your eyes! But Cora is now a dowager (widow of a peer) too, so the usual manner is to now call her Cora, Countess of Grantham. When Lord Grantham inherited the title Earl of Grantham, the title Viscount Downton, became his subsidiary title. What about Sybil? Or at least, Edith did. Edith finally decided to leave little Marigold with a local farmer, Mr. Drewe, whom she trusted with her beloved daughter. I didnt feel much sympathy at the thought of the Crawleys being forced to downsize to a slightly less massive mansion. Please read the entire article to find the the answer to your question. But alas, in a humiliating turn of events, poor Edith is left at the altar when her betrothed backs out of the deal, claiming it's for her own good due to the age gap between them . Epic frame-job fail.). It cleared up my confusion about the names and titles. Thank you so much! If you have anyquestions relating to the titles used on Downton Abbey, leave them in the comments box below. The farmer's wife spills the truth to Edith's mother, Lady Grantham. Lady Mary will always be the daughter of an Earl so she will always be known as the Lady Mary Crawley, unless she remarried, in which case shed assume her husbands styles and titles. Even Matthews death happened right after he blissfully met his son. Denker and Spratts unprofessional squabbles wouldve gotten plenty of other servants fired, but fans believe the Dowager Countess keeps them employed for her own amusement. A courtesy title doesnt mean the holder is a peer. I dont know why this is so but it is the tradition. I sorta left some parts out: they get an official ladys maid when theyre married or reach a certain age. Stevenson: Oh that Gwen Dawson. I always had a soft spot for this particular ginger maid, who was treated poorly by her baby daddys parents, but once is enough for that story line. For example, Tom Branson was Brandon before he got married, then he was Tom after he married Lady C, then once he became the agent of the estate, Violet/Lady G said they can finally call him Branson again. Mary gets whatever she wantsan archbishop to perform her wedding, her husband to accept a legacy that makes him uncomfortable so that she can live in the house she wants to, despite its impracticalitywhile everyone else gets to decide whats right for her sister Edith. There, at the insistence of Aunt Rosamund, Edith placed her child informally not legally with some very nice Swiss people, apparently, but she almost immediately began having second thoughts. Peers typically use their title as a surname when they need one though legally their surname would remain as their family name. The film had a very crowded plot, with all the old characters plus a lot of new ones, all deserving some screen time. We have many more delightfully implausible frolics ahead of us. Dear Sir or Maam, Edith doesn't marry until the last episode of the show, so Madge or any other housemaid dressed her. It is television fiction. But because Edith is Edith, he dumped her at the altar . Should something happen to Robert, the title would pass to George making Cora the Dowager Countess. . But in time her sons wife could be. ), Aunt Rosamund shame-bullied Edith into the Swiss adoption, which she never wanted, and when it came right down to it, Edith ultimately did what Edith thought was right, for reasons other than wanting to get married already before she gets old. Laura Carmichael as Lady Edith, whose rather appalling luck seems destined to follow her. English actor Laura Carmichael doesn't have a problem with that. These two do not like each other, and theyre quite public about it. So Edith gave her lady's maid time off for the duration of Edith's trip to Downton. Since Its never states the ages of Robert and Cora I assume that Cora is no longer able to have children but like a son if they had on George is Vicount Dowton. However I like the titles of earl countess baron baroness sir lady. My understanding is that the family name is Grantham and that Lady Mary married Matthew Crawley. She is just a plain miss. Unlucky in love, unlucky in life. 1 level 1 [deleted] Exit Anthony, pursued by Edith's terrible luck. The new husband is required to take the family name in order to receive his father-in-laws title. If Matthew had become Earl, what would Isobel, his mother, be? A parent with brown eyes might carry the recessive blue eye gene (i.e. ), but had an institutionalized wife (boo!). Hello, There's something evil going on in that stately home in the rolling hills of Yorkshire, and it's a lot more nefarious than the re-bedding of the body of the expired Turkish gentleman. is never taken to task for the comments she makes putting her little sister down. I guess she may not technically be a Lady's Maid but a "maid who does buttons and hooks". Photograph courtesy of . 1,592, This story has been shared 1,546 times. I understand that they are called Lord and Lady Grantham, I just dont understand why they go by Violets last name. She is persistently tormented by an unknown feeling, a sort of vague discomfort at the knowledge of a possibly sinister presence . Like with Lord Grantham, her title of Countess of Granthamis often abbreviated to Lady Grantham, the same as for all other Baronesses, Viscountesses, Countesses and Marchionesses. Well, to Americans this isnt obvious. Titles do not necessarily have any connection to the location of the owner of a title. What will the title of the daughter of Sybil and Branson be called when she grows up? In order to divorce his wife, he went off to Germany (as you do in the years following World War I, if you have a taste for adventure), where he disappeared. This episode left me fuming. Tom is the Granthams son in law, Lady Sibyls widower. My Lady is *never* correct, although unfortunately the courts of justice seem to require it when addressing a female judge of senior rank. The family refer to the housekeeper and cook as Mrs and their family name regardless if they were ever married or not. Only married women have lady's maids. Another one suggests that Gregson was a British spy gathering intel on the insurgent Nazisand he might not have died at all. I was torn about the scene with Isobel and her fallen women. Robert is the 7th Earl of Grantham, making Cora the 7th Countess of Grantham, assuming of course that there has never been a divorce or death which has resulted in a remarriage. And anyway, that wedding disaster was such a stupid, great Downton momentI screamed with laughter when he muttered, I cant do this. And poor Edith! Was that a correct form of address? Lord Granthams wife, Cora Crawley (played by Elizabeth McGovern) is known asLady Grantham. Downton Pop-out Trailer.) Ms. Jenny, The valet was suspected of murder (twice). The junior staff are called by their first names by all. The second and subsequent sons are styled The Honourable William. There can be an unlimited number of dowagers. Trapped between beautiful Mary and adventurous Sybil, Edith was the sad one. For the most part, any of the staff that the family has routine contact with such as the butler, valet, footmen, chauffeur and ladys maids are called by their family name only. Thanks also to Hans for the helpful comment. Interestingly, if Lord Grantham had a son, he would go by the title ofLord Downton (fully as Viscount Downton)because Lord Grantham also holds this as whats called a subsidiary title which is like a secondary, lesser title. I imagined the rage within Lady E mutating until lasers shot out her googly eyes, incinerating Mary and Sibyl and burning Downton to the ground. Both Lord and Lady Grantham have blue eyes, but their eldest daughter, Mary, has brown eyes. Does a Dog's Head Shape Predict How Smart It Is? But before that, like Im the case of Mary, the senior housemaid would be an acting ladys maid. However I do not feel easy with the title lord because the word lord is associated with the All mighty God. Being American, I fear I have a rather limited understanding of the British system regarding the bestowing of titles. Its almost as if Downton Abbeys creator and head writer, Julian Fellowes has it out for poor Lady Edith. [This piece contains information about the plot of Downton Abbey, up to and including Sunday night's fourth-season finale.]. Of course, this new romance was also not without turmoil. Im much more interested in the potential below-stairs courtship of Mr. Carson and Mrs. Hughes. Takedown request | View complete answer on downtonabbey.fandom.com. Dear Shirley, There is also Violet Crawley (played by Maggie Smith) who is Lord Granthams mother and the wife of the previous Lord Grantham. Because Matthew predeceased Robert, Mary was never actually the Countess, but her son would be the earl, so what title does that leave her? The article was so frustrating when it left that out. She's unluckier than Matthew, and he's quite deceased. Get the help you need from a therapist near youa FREE service from Psychology Today. Or would only one daughter inherit the title? After that, Edith decided to start a little thing with a married farmer, but his wife found out, and it was adios to Old MacDonald. I'm not sure if Edith would insist on a lady's maid because of her history as 'Poor Edith.' Could you please explain when the serverants should be addressed by their first name or surename? No Mr/Mrs or Miss. They then called him Tom when he became part of the family although the dowager did so reluctantly. 2,664, This story has been shared 2,161 times. Continue browsing in r/DowntonAbbey. I explore that reality in my book, My Sister, My Self: The Surprising Ways That Being an Older, Middle, Younger, or Twin Shaped Your Life. June Thomas: Chaps, will you join me in my campaign for justice for Lady Edith? Only his present wife is the Princess of Wales. The son of a valet would not have any titles, nor would anyone care what he was called. The family would call them by their first name if it were known to them or perhaps nothing at all. When Tom Branson was the chauffeur the family called him Branson. Another old custom, often written into the fathers will when a daughter inherits estate & titles with no surviving brothers, and then marries. Then, Edith met Bandages McGee (not his real name, probably), who either was or was not her dead wealthy cousin, making him a perfect romantic prospect. She would probably have opened the house to the public in the 1960s, as so many of them did, Fellowes told Deadline. Staying Single: What Most People Do If They Divorce After 50. All rights reserved. Sometimes the ex-wife wants to hold onto a title, but cannot. 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Another season of Downton Abbey has come to a close, and once again, Lady Edith is unlucky. And then they rolled up the rugs on Ediths before it even began.). Her aunt bundled her off to Switzerland for the mysterious, months-long absence everyone either agreed to consider not suspicious at all or actually did not consider suspicious because they cannot imagine Edith having a sex life. The fact she can transform from drab Lady Edith to drop-dead gorgeous glamazon to walk the red carpet, and elicit reactions . And, of course, because Edith is Edith, she found herself taking television's most common journey: From Virginity To Pregnancy In One Encounter. The kitchen maids wondered why she was so tired looking, she was reminded of her missing/presumed dead lover, she had to pretend to not care about her secret bastard daughter (whose name is Marigold for some reason), and she almost burned down the entire house after she drunkenly threw a book into the fire. She wont be content to let other people tell her that she cant be an unwed mother. Like the family name for the very-real premier duke of England, the Duke of Norfolk, is Fitzalan-Howard. Margaret Sweeney married the Duke of Argyll. OK, so if Robert Crawley, Seventh Earl of Grantham, had a son he would the the Viscount Downton. Due to the familys commitment to avoiding any unpleasantness, the only thing that could mitigate this dynamic, the intervention of the parents, does not take place. But what if everyones assumptions about Bates are exactly right? I still stick with my original theory-that her lady's maid isn't a full-time one like Anna, but that a housemaid might help her or she shares Bertie's mother's lady's maid. So Edith might not actually be able to manage it on her own. If not, why don't they? My understanding is that the lower-ranking staff are addressed by the first name, (e.g., Daisy) and higher-ranking staff who are responsible for their area, (e.g., Mr. Carson in in charge of footmen so on, Ms. Hughes in charge of maids, and Ms. Patmore in charge of the cooks) or who work directly for the family, (e.g., Mr. Bates) or maybe sometimes I guess it could be some more familiar with some staff, (e.g., Anna starting off lower on the ladder and then moving up to waiting on a member of the family). One is found, a distant male-cousin, a descendant of the 3rd Earl, coincidentally with the same surname. So, dear, poor Edith continues to live in terror of being discovered by the one person who should care most about protecting herher older sister. Carson: "We may have to have a maid in the dining room." The Earl of Grantham: "Cheer up, Carson. I do enjoy watching sad-sack Molesley endure an endless string of indignities. 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